Zealots Fire = Broken - Guild Wars Forums

Mr D J · Apr 23, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

So, I was using zealots fire for a while on my monk, starting from lvl 12 or so.. At level 12 it was dealing 12 Damage out of 26 it was surposed to... Once I leveled, the damage dealt by it was increased by 1 point and whenever I increased my smiting attributes, damage was increased by 1 point too... So I'm a lvl 20 and Zealot's Fire is at 33 Fire Damage... I go up to aatxe and omg it only deals 17... I go out to trolls and 17?!?!? Is it glitched or was it like this always? I've seen zealots fire deal 104 dmg to aatxe long before smiting skills nerf...

dgb · Apr 23, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Or you could be doing fire damage, which is modified by armour. I suspect aatxes have a truckload of armour.

Mr D J · Apr 23, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

^^^^
I was thinking that but I saw Zealots fire deal 104 dmg before the skill nerf to an aatxe so I dunno really

Str0b0 · Apr 23, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

It is fire damage and not holy damage. Fire damage is mitigated by armor and yes aataxes do have a truckload of armor and then some.

Wrath Of Dragons · Apr 23, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

i have never seen zealots do over like 18 to an ataxe. thats why i also never bring a fire build down there either. their armor is insane

Mr D J · Apr 23, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Well I really dunno but when I had a fire nuker, my attacks used to deal full dmg to aatxe (ex. 106 or so from meteor) I forgot the exact values but damage wasnt reduced whatsoever

remmeh · Apr 23, 2006, 06:00 PM // 18:00

The 104 you saw was Zealot's damage to a Nightmare.

Mr D J · Apr 23, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Well OK, but how will you explain leveling up increasing the damage?

Savio · Apr 23, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Spell damage only does 100% of listed damage when you're at level 20. Read.

Ole Man Bourbon · Apr 23, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

There's a level-based damage mod in the game. The critical hit mod is also based on level in addition to attribute pts. Obviously, increases in attribute points will increase damage as well.

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 23, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Other common monsters that people use/have used Zealot's Fire on are Griffons, Minotaurs, and Trolls. You'll notice it doesn't do the listed damage on them either. There's nothing wrong with the skill, many monsters simply have elemental resistance to certain elements. It's the same principle as a fire spell such as Fireball only doing 50-ish damage when it's listed to do 119. Now, use Zealot's Fire against an Ice Golem or something similar, and you'll notice the damage going well above the listed amount.
Hope this helps to further clarify it.

Veneficus · Apr 23, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

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Originally Posted by Joker The Owner

Well I really dunno but when I had a fire nuker, my attacks used to deal full dmg to aatxe (ex. 106 or so from meteor) I forgot the exact values but damage wasnt reduced whatsoever

Not true,

Rodgorts at 12 fire only deals around 33 to aatxe

Mandy Memory · Apr 23, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

ZF was nerfed...but thats not what you are talking about. You are just seeing armor.

Mr D J · Apr 23, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veneficus

Not true,

Rodgorts at 12 fire only deals around 33 to aatxe

I had a nuker about 6 months ago so lol dont blame me

byteme! · Apr 24, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker The Owner

I had a nuker about 6 months ago so lol dont blame me

Then your claim of said damage done to said monsters "6 months ago" has no relevance at all to your comparisons.

Mr D J · Apr 24, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by byteme!

Then your claim of said damage done to said monsters "6 months ago" has no relevance at all to your comparisons.

Thank you, you "really" opened my eyes

/sarcasm off

lol...

Apr 23, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10	#1
Mr D J Permanently Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2005	Zealots Fire = Broken So, I was using zealots fire for a while on my monk, starting from lvl 12 or so.. At level 12 it was dealing 12 Damage out of 26 it was surposed to... Once I leveled, the damage dealt by it was increased by 1 point and whenever I increased my smiting attributes, damage was increased by 1 point too... So I'm a lvl 20 and Zealot's Fire is at 33 Fire Damage... I go up to aatxe and omg it only deals 17... I go out to trolls and 17?!?!? Is it glitched or was it like this always? I've seen zealots fire deal 104 dmg to aatxe long before smiting skills nerf...

Apr 23, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10	#9
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Spell damage only does 100% of listed damage when you're at level 20. Read. __________________ People are stupid.

Apr 23, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25	#2
dgb Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	Or you could be doing fire damage, which is modified by armour. I suspect aatxes have a truckload of armour.

Apr 23, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23	#3
Mr D J Permanently Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2005	^^^^ I was thinking that but I saw Zealots fire deal 104 dmg before the skill nerf to an aatxe so I dunno really

Apr 23, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25	#4
Str0b0 Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Carolina Profession: N/Me	It is fire damage and not holy damage. Fire damage is mitigated by armor and yes aataxes do have a truckload of armor and then some.

Apr 23, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#5
Wrath Of Dragons Burninate Stuff Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Mexico Profession: E/Mo	i have never seen zealots do over like 18 to an ataxe. thats why i also never bring a fire build down there either. their armor is insane

Apr 23, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57	#6
Mr D J Permanently Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2005	Well I really dunno but when I had a fire nuker, my attacks used to deal full dmg to aatxe (ex. 106 or so from meteor) I forgot the exact values but damage wasnt reduced whatsoever

Apr 23, 2006, 06:00 PM // 18:00	#7
remmeh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Apathy Inc [AI] Profession: R/Mo	The 104 you saw was Zealot's damage to a Nightmare.

Apr 23, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#8
Mr D J Permanently Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2005	Well OK, but how will you explain leveling up increasing the damage?

Apr 23, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#10
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	There's a level-based damage mod in the game. The critical hit mod is also based on level in addition to attribute pts. Obviously, increases in attribute points will increase damage as well.

Apr 23, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39	#11
Rayne Nightfyre Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Acolytes of Lyssa [AL] Profession: Me/A	Other common monsters that people use/have used Zealot's Fire on are Griffons, Minotaurs, and Trolls. You'll notice it doesn't do the listed damage on them either. There's nothing wrong with the skill, many monsters simply have elemental resistance to certain elements. It's the same principle as a fire spell such as Fireball only doing 50-ish damage when it's listed to do 119. Now, use Zealot's Fire against an Ice Golem or something similar, and you'll notice the damage going well above the listed amount. Hope this helps to further clarify it.

Apr 23, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52	#13
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	ZF was nerfed...but thats not what you are talking about. You are just seeing armor.